Lately I've been engaged in a most interesting debate with some people I know electronically via an old-style BBS. (Users who have been around the internet awhile and who remember those things with fondness may pause now for wistful retrospection; users who have not the first clue what I'm on about --- it really doesn't matter.) The matter under discussion was shouting at one's partner and having arguments.
See, the page in question is entitled This Week I Have Mostly Done Wrong... It's a place for chaps to put down in writing for the delectation of other chaps what their wives, young ladies, young chaps or whoever have been telling them in no uncertain terms they've done wrong. I'm sure you're familiar with the scenario: you leave the bathroom seat up once too often and the next thing you know you're being reminded of the waitress you flirted with six years ago, two days after we'd got engaged, you know the one I'm talking about! and then there's the door on the bedroom wardrobe, it's still hanging half off it's hinges, and you offended my mother the last time she came to visit AND I HATE YOU!
... you know the sort of thing I'm talking about?
But the point in question was the methodology of the argument itself, not the subject matter. One chap had commented on the arguments he has with his lovely wife, the shouting and screaming that go on with neither side really listening to the other. How passionately he felt for her and how that translated into rows and arguments. What he actually said was this:
If you can honestly say you've never had that deep, enraged argument with any woman you've had, then I honestly think you've never loved. (And certainly not lived with one!)
Granted, I've never lived with a woman, although I've loved a few. I replied and made the point that, while I've been in my current relationship, I've never raised my voice and shouted at my Mate because of something he had (not) done. I've shouted to him, and I've shouted and vented my frustration at something else, but I've never, ever yelled and stomped and initiated a screaming argument with him. My point was twofold:
- Neither of us thinks it's remotely necessary to scream in order to make a valid point. If there is a problem we talk it through, no matter how long it takes, and we never let the sun set on our anger. (It was good counsel back in Saint James's time, and it's good counsel now.)
- I grew up in a house where there was a great deal of unhappiness, resentment and stress. One side of my family is genetically disposed towards depression (as am I), and that merely compounded matters. My father had a very stressful job and worked shifts as well. Without apportioning blame, it was frequently a case of walking on eggshells: any minor trauma could lead to a screaming match. Oh, my parents were good folks, not well off, doing the best they could -- but they were and are only human. The practical upshot was that I swore to myself when I started dating that I would never, ever shout at my lover/boyfriend/girlfriend/Mate/partner/Significant Other --- whoever it may be, whichever gender. I was not going to have the arguments in my relationship that my parents, bless them, had in theirs.
These seemed like two perfectly good reasons for not shouting at my Mate. But others on the page found me emotionless ("How do you express your emotions, Mr Data?" asked one) and suggested that things between my Mate and I must be passionless. I replied again, explaining that I am passionate about things, but I don't have to prove it by shouting. (My preferred method of proving my passion involves bedsheets, the phone off the hook and an expensive home-cooked dinner, among other things.)
I'm glad to say at this point that other people agreed that their relationships, passionate and sex-filled as they are, could be quite passionate enough without shouting.
Vindicated. Then someone asked, if I don't shout at my partner, do I support a sports team, and start shouting at a foul?
It was then that I lost my presence of mind. I did indeed shout --- well, I did the typographical equivalent AND STARTED TYPING LIKE THIS.
NO, I said,
I DON'T SUPPORT A SPORTS TEAM and
YES I CAN AND DO SHOUT BUT NOT AT HIM. And then, calmly and in a controlled manner, I explained again
why I don't shout...
et après ça, as it were
, la déluge.
You wanted passion, you got it. That's something I feel passionately about. Sports is a waste of time, let's be honest. At the end of the day it means about as much as a gnat's turd. Love is important. More, right now, to me than ever before.You all do as you want in your own relationships. I never said it was wrong; I was not criticising you, or accusing you of lack of manliness or passion or cojones or anything. All I said was, that I see no reason to shout and scream at someone I love. If y'all want to do that, y'all can have my share of it, and I hope it brings you much joy.The problem with all of the above is that some people in the argument have taken up a very strange position, which is that
if you do not agree with me, then you must be wrong.
What?
Not
wrong from my position, but just plain
wrong. Absolutely, unquestionably wrong and without possibility of appeal.
Yet there's so much of it about. I'm right, you're wrong; you're wrong, I'm right. How can so many people assert that
their truth and only their truth is the right one? How can anybody be so arrogant and get away with it?
It's an attitude as old as the hills. It's an attitude that was endemic even before the Tribes of Israel starting toting around a box with a worse 'tude than anything even Terry Pratchett could come up with. And yet its ongoing prevalence I find distinctly disturbing. Particularly so in this day and age where 'cultural diversity' seems to be the touchstone and the mantra of civilised and peaceful society, in which the Muslim shall lie down with the Hindu and Pat Robertson with the Hare Krishnas.